S1, E5 of the Dream Doers Podcast – “Embracing Change. Pivoting is Power” with Sarah Brown
What good thing do you think you can put down, to make room right now for greater things? In this podcast episode, Sarah Brown talks about how to embrace change. That pivoting is power. There’s so much good content packed in this one episode about how to create a brick and mortar and not only be a successful entrepreneur, but a mother as well!
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Episode Highlights:
- Recognizing that pivoting is power — Being comfortable in the uncomfortable
- Breaking free from perfectionism and redefining success as a mom and entrepreneur
- Learning to “put good things down” to make room for great things and manage life more intentionally
- Letting go of the pressure, shame, and mom guilt — especially related to social media and outside expectations
- Sarah’s transition from counselor to successful store owner and interior designer
- The power of showing up fully — especially for our kids
- Navigating building a brick-and-mortar business amidst an unexpected divorce — and making space to grieve
- Living in the reality of prayers once whispered in hard seasons
- Why you can be both wildly successful and an incredibly present mom
- Celebrating small wins and giving ourselves permission to be proud
- The importance of a solid support system — and how to find community if you don’t have it yet
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✨ Episode breakdowns:
[00:00] Recap of Last Episode
[02:22] Introducing the Love Sarah Brown
[07:52] Living in the Dreams You’ve Been Praying For
[12:45] How to Balance Motherhood and Entrepreneur Without the Mom Guilt
[27:00] Laying Down “Good” Things for Great Things
[31:25] It Is Not My Job To Convince You of My Reality
[36:53] (I F***ing did that) It’s OK Being Proud of Yourself. Sarah’s Pillars of Strength!
[42:35] Getting Comfortable with the Uncomfortable! Pivoting is Power
[47:00] Embracing Each Season – A Time For Rest, A Time For Hustle
[50:58] How a Strong Support System is Key
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Season 1, Episode 005 – Embracing Change. Pivoting is Power with Sarah Brown
[00:00] Intro
Welcome back to the show, friends. Today’s episode on the Dream Doers Podcast is a big one — I’m so excited. Not just because it’s our first ever guest interview, but because this conversation is packed with truth, humor, and permission to let go of the pressure we’re all as moms, carrying. I sat down with my former client and now friend Sarah Brown — a powerhouse mama, former counselor, and creative business owner who’s built not only an inspiring life but a recent brick and mortar in Kansas City, by learning when to put good things down to make room to pick up great things. We talk about the lies of perfectionism, the highlight reel of social media, and how success doesn’t have to come at the cost of your motherhood and motherhood doesn’t have to be put on the back burner to be a successful business owner too. If you’ve ever felt overwhelmed by how to ‘balance it all as a mom and business owner,’ without losing yourself, even amidst unexpected seasons of grieving loss, this one’s for you.
[27:00] Laying Down “Good” for Great: Choosing with Intention
Sarah:
….happen easily, but when we look at compartmentalization and putting things down when we need to put things down in order to manage it all in a healthier way, I feel like you know, my approach to it is looking at it in a way that’s ok, the intentionality of what I put down and what’s still on my plate and what works for me, and that’s been successful for me so far.
Jana:
I love that. I think another huge piece as a recovering perfectionist, I have learned to just not make everything so perfect. It doesn’t have to be so perfect. So that mom guilt and the perfectionism problem that I feel lie so many women have, especially with social media, we have to have these $30,000 first birthdays that our kids aren’t going to remember, and why? Who’s that for? I mean, are you a creative and you genuinely love that? That’s fine if you do. I am an artist so I do love to have big experiences and stuff like that, but also I’m like, “What really matters to this kid? They don’t really need all of these things. So can we let go of some things and make space for others? Kind of like you said: ‘Let’s put something aside.’ A lot of that comes in when we start talking about doing everything perfect.
I was an insta mom. So my kid instantly went to kindergarten, my oldest. And I was like, ‘Ok, I went from having no kids to having a kid in school.’ And I just, I don’t know if I was not ready for diving into all of that with excitement, but it was also a hard season and so because it was a hrad season for me, i had to truly say, ‘What matters to me now, and what doesn’t. I’m going to let go of the perfect… I’m just going to show up, because all he wants is me there. I don’t need to have to bring all the bells and whistles, all the cool chairs, all the… I, he just wants me there, and that’s what matters.’ So you start to shift, and pivot. Not only physically but like, your mindset. You know, does he need to have a really big birthday that’s overstimulating and overwhelming in this massive place that’s cool OR does he just want the three of his best friends to go to the movies with?
Sarah:
Well, when you look at like, mom guilt, you’re like, ‘Ok,’ like, especially when we start to get successful, people are like, ‘Oh like, how does she do it all, or like, I bet like, her kids are suffering because of it.’ It’s like, ‘You know what f*** that.’ Can I cuss?
Jana:
You sure can. Lol.
Sarah:
F*** that. Why can’t we be successful and really freaking good at what we do and create, and also be a good present mom? Hi! Well it’s like, well because they clearly haven’t listened to this episode and they don’t know how to put things down when they need to put things down and pick them back up when they’re ready. You know?
Jana:
And not to carry the shame and the guilt of again, doing it perfectly and doing it all at the same time.
Also one of the biggest things for me is, it is not my job.. Um, I had someone once say, ‘Perception is reality.’ And I hated that. Because I said, ‘Well what you perceive is reality.’ We all have our own filters, by which we see things. And social media as we all know is a huge highlight reel of everybody’s life. Right? It’s not my job to convince you of my reality. You are looking at something from an outsider’s perspective thinking, ‘Oh either this family is so amazing,’ or ‘This couple’s so amazing,’ or ‘She’s got it all together.’ When really I’m over here and I’m like, ‘I’m a hot damn mess, I’ve got nothing together, I forgot my kids soccer cleats because we just ran from three different things’ and you know I don’t want to also present online, or in a podcast, or in a book or anything, that I am doing it all well. I think that’s a huge thing to have the conversation between women, it’s like, ‘It’s ok. You’re doing just fine.’ You know? Just show up again.
Some days you might have to show up with tears. I did that quite a bit. My makeup was run off my face, my kids knew something was off, but I was there for hugs and to cheer them on because that’s what you do. I can set, I can deal what I need to and set it aside and be there. I don’t have to bring all the bells and whistles and I’m not going to carry the shame of that also. I’m doing the best that I can with what I have and the wisdom I have, you know?
Whew girl! Aside from all the craziness of mommin’ we do also businesses to run too. So why don’t you tell us a little bit more about what it is that you do?
Sarah:
Umm my store bread and butter is table top. I have, I lived in the south for six years, and we were just spoiled rotten with just hosting events and dinner parties and get togethers, (so dreamy), it is just, it is a dream. And when I moved back to Kansas City I was like, ‘Holy moly, we are missing a lot with shopping experiences and what people like to do’ and I like to bring people together you know, what they need, and so I started my store that focuses on table tops. So dinner ware, drink ware, bar ware, table linens, all the fun things that create the perfect diner party or get together, cocktail hour. And then it’s grown since to having home decor, unique um, vintage pieces, furniture, and now interior design services (oh my). Ya, I have a team of designers and two retail employees, and I’m feeling so incredibly blessed and grateful. Because I just saw a hole and I did it a little bit differently than anyone else and it stands out and it’s successful and you really drive what you see. So, ya I am, I just love my little piece of Heaven right on 4812 Rainbow Blvd in Westwood, Kansas.
Jana:
Aw, plug in. Did you quit your other job and you’re doing this full time?
Sarah:
Yes, I quit my practice yes, and I love, I will forever love what I did. I was a counselor for about six years. I will forever love it, and I never disliked it. And I never really got burnt out, I just wanted to have something a little bit more creative you know? I got so good at what I did as a counselor, you know just, my clients would stick with me awhile. So it got really consistent, right and as a creative you just kind of feel (Jana: you just want to shake it up a bit). Ya. Right. And in counseling you don’t really get to do that.
Jana:
And you’re pouring so much of yourself and your energy into other people all the time and you were ready to get poured back into.
Sarah:
Oh ya. Definitely.
Jana:
That’s beautiful. So then you probably already answered this but if you want to elaborate more you can, but what dreams have you had that you have now achieved.
Sarah:
Man. I kind of like, like little me is so emotional over that question it’s like, ‘Oh my gosh. I’ve achieved what I wanted to achieve in life.’
Jana:
That gives me goosebumps (Sarah: I know) because we don’t pause to think about it (Sarah: no). We’re just doing it, right? We’re just doing it, we’re showing up (Sarah: ya). But then when someone stops and asks you, you’re like, ‘Oh my gosh, I’m living in (Sarah: yes) the answered prayers (Sarah: yes) that I spent years praying for.’ (Sarah: ya) What a blessing. And what a perspective shift. To pay attention to the things that you’ve dreamed of and how much that is happening right around you, even amidst craziness and chaos, and sickness and death and all the things, we still have so many things to be thankful for. And you’re living it. As a mom and a business owner isn’t that cool?
Sarah:
Yes. Celebrating both points of success you know? And making sure you make the time to do that for yourself. You are worthy of celebration no matter the size of success or accomplishment. Whether it’s with your mom plate or your business woman plate, you need to celebrate it. Because then you stop and you take intentionality behind it and you’re like, ‘Wow. Ya, I f***ing did that. (Jana: ya) Oh my gosh.’ And actually like, this is a big deal.
Jana:
And I think that we’re kind of taught to not be proud right? Like, oh pride is such a selfish thing. Well I mean, we can still be selfless and be proud we’re building generational wealth and a legacy for our kids and your daughters kids. Is that crazy? (Sarah: um huh, wow, wow.) So to know that all the things you’ve worked for again, you’re living out now and we have such a long life we can live to accomplish so much more. I say all the time, I’m like, ‘You know, I’ve done everything that I’ve ever dreamed of. Like, I’d be ready to go right now.’ But I have so many things still I want to do. You know, and I think people get so caught in the, I’ve said this before, ‘Perfection equals procrastination and procrastination equals paralysis.’ So we get froze and stuck before we even begin, and then we have all these moms or all these people, men too, that look at people who are doing the damn thing and you’re like, ‘How?’ (Sarah: mm hm) Truly, all of that.
[36:50] Choosing Yourself First: Health is the Foundation for Everything
Jana:
If a woman were to ask you, ‘Where do I begin’ what would you tell her?
Sarah:
I would say you need to begin with yourself. Because honestly, do we really do it all. Do we like, what is underneath everything that’s external that we are doing and balancing and coordinating every single day is the relationship with ourselves. And that is an ever developing thing for me, right? Especially as our kids get older and we have different relationships with them, what worked for me internally five years ago even, even a year ago doesn’t work for me now.
Jana:
And no one gives you a playbook, or a guide.
Sarah:
No. And you know, I would just call them the pillars of strength or sense of self as you go through this right? So like, me jumping, pivoting into this and jumping head first into my side hustle took a lot of confidence in myself and then also in what I couldn’t see yet right. And if you’re confidence, it doesn’t have to be perfect, but if your confidence isn’t in a place to hold you up when you really need it to like, you need your confidence engaged and you don’t have it there.. You’re going to fall to those negative self beliefs. Or the um, insecurities of pivoting right, because you don’t know what you know yet and that’s very vulnerable and your confidence is going to be your best friend there to say, ‘You know what, don’t forget who you are and what you’re building. Right? And you will be able to figure this out. Today might feel yucky but tomorrow is a new day right?’ And that’s the confidence in yourself to get through that night. So confidence in yourself, um, confidence in so that first pillar is around your sense of your capabilities.. What you can accomplish, what you can do with your motivation and your energy and your goals. And I feel like that second pillar is huge on confidence on your decision making skills. And I will be the first to say as a prior counselor, I had my own counselor and that is one of the biggest things I had to work on with myself. And that was due to, personal relationships in my life that would constantly feed me criticism of my decisions right? And so it would just kind of, like it was just death by a thousand cuts, where you eventually don’t feel confident in the things that you decide and the things you do. (Jana: Ya). It’s like, ‘Ok I can be confident all day. I love how I dress and how I look today. Oh my gosh.’ But then it’s like, ‘Oh sh**.’
Jana:
Its that little voice back there.
Sarah:
Ya. Yes. Like if I don’t feel confident in what I’m deciding for myself, for my child, for my home, for my business.. I’m going to literally be the captain of the Titanic and stear us right into an iceberg.
Jana:
Haha. That was a big change.
Sarah:
I know. But ya.. Confidence in your decisions. Confidence in yourself. And then also how I did it was truly finding a point of saying to yourself, ‘It doesn’t really f***ing matter. All of the things, all the buzzing, all the thoughts, all the pressure, (Jana: all the noise) yes. Like, just let it be. And that is a constant daily practice that is not just one and done. That is something I’m constantly exercising every day is like, you know what.. cool.. I was, you know I usually pick up my daughter from after school care around 5.. And I didn’t pick her up until 5:30pm and I felt bad. And I was like, ‘You know what, it’s going to be ok. Did she even blink an eye? No she was happy because she got to stay and play with kids at after school care right?’ It truly at the end of the day, the moment I’m ready and able to put things down, I can put them down and then I can be the best mom or best business woman that I can be. Everything else, does not matter.
Jana:
Ya so it’s really about prioritizing. (Sarah: Umm hmm) Like if you want to dive into something, if you want to pivot, what is going to take priority and what is ok becoming a second priority for a little bit, or a third. You know I have some really high priorities but they’re 7th and 8th in line because they need to be for the time being. You know?
Sarah:
Ya, right, ya.
41:26
Jana:
I do want to go back to, you were talking about not knowing… So when you’re doing anything, right? When you’re pivoting, when you’re starting a new thing, when you’re quitting a new job when you’re taking on a new job, when you’re getting pregnant or getting married, soooo many things we can’t see. Right? So did the fear of the unknown ever stop you or did you carry the worry or are you kind of like the, ‘No we’ll be good, we’re going to dive in and just see what happens?’
Sarah:
Well, I’m not completely delulu. I do recognize like ok, we really don’t know and I’m very type A too. I like predictability and all the things that I can see ahead of me. So this is probably a big, again, constant muscle that I’m utilizing or trying to strengthen every day. Because sometimes it is scary you know, and sometimes it is, ‘Well we definitely did not meet our goals that week or that day, uh, like, now what’ type of questions. Right? But you cannot, I mean I know it sounds cheesy, but if everyone that started businesses thinks like that and then pause or freeze in the face of a feeling or a thought like that like, (Jana: we’re never going to get started) exactly. So you have to learn to be comfortable with the uncomfortable as an entrepreneur.
Jana:
Yes! Oh my gosh that’s so powerful.
Sarah:
You know. And I feel like that’s so relative as moms. It’s like our kids are new freaking little human beings every day. We don’t know what is up next. Right?
Jana:
Right. When you figure something out, it changes. (Sarah: yes) And you’re like, ‘Oh ok, we’ll just keep evolving. (Sarah: yes)
Sarah:
And if you feel comfortable in your motherhood space with that apply it as a business woman. Apply it as an entrepreneur. Where do I feel the most, the strength there and how can I apply it with the same things just, different party.
43:21
Jana:
Ya. But the scariest thing is whenever you’re completely sideswiped. So I went into marriage and I went into businesses and I created all of what I thought were my dreams, with you know, knowledge knowing that things could happen or, that some things aren’t going to be perfect and it’s ok, but there were still pieces of me that were completely dumbfounded when things for me went sideways. And then I was navigating something I felt ill equipped for. I’m not equipped to handle a divorce and keep a business successful. I’m not equipped to sustain all of this. You know? As a mom, and someone who owns a home, and has pets and a business. And so I think it’s the sideswiping that really you know.. that’s the biggest fear for the people who do process that.. They’re thinking, ‘Oh I can start this business, and it could not work but then we’ll pivot and change.’ But they’re probably processing and thinking one step further thinking like, ‘I could lose myself in this.’ Some people are aware of that. I was not personally, and then that season hits. And you’re like, ‘Now what?’ (Sarah: umm hm) If you’re comfortable sharing, and it doesn’t have to be one specific thing, because there’s lots of things you know? You have loved ones, and when you walk through things with loved ones, you’re going through that with them, you know? So was there anything that came along that kind of side swiped you and you were like, ‘What the hell.’ Like, ‘Why!? Why if things are so good and it felt so right and then now I have to navigate something else.’
Sarah:
Ya no.. I mean, my 11 year relationships, marriage, fell apart. Like worst case scenarios come true, things you were anticipating you know, and they come true and are right in front of your face. And you’re either going to fall into the fetal position, which naturally that’s, what every bone in your body is telling you to do.. (Jana: umm hmm, I’ve been there) Um, hmm, or you’re going to stand up straight and continue to move forward, but not alone anymore.
Jana:
And it’s ok honestly with any of those. I had to learn that. Iwas shaming myself for not being perfect. For having emotions that put me on the floor a few days. You know? And I felt ashamed of myself because I’ve like, I’ve always been the one that could do it. I’ve always been the one that held everything together, and right now I’m not holding myself together so how am I going to hold anything else together? And I felt like sh** and I had to go and really feel all of that, and as a counselor you are probably thinking, “Uw this is good stuff’ .. but you know, I had to really allow myself to feel all those crappy feelings and to, um do you mind putting that here, sorry (Sarah: ya, lol).. I guess, ok the better way of putting it is, I had to stop shaming myself and know that it was the season that my body and my mentality needed to mourn (Sarah: yes). And I was in the slowest season of my life I remember, and I was terrified and I remember telling my friends, ‘Why in the world would God not be sending jobs, why are people not inquiring. Why when I’m at my lowest are things not coming in?’ And my friend was like, ‘Because you need to rest.” And I was like, ‘You know what, you’re right!’ And so I stopped shaming myself, and I allowed myself as long as I needed and then when I was ready, then I was ready to stand up and face it and start feeling confident again. You know but I just, for too long, it was a shame thing. I let myself stay in that season.. I had two or three, actually you know what.. Every single friend I had along my journey personally, was saying the right thing at the right time for what I needed, and then I came at the very end and I had my two friends that said, ‘Get up! You’ve had enough time to cry it out. You’ve had enough time to mourn. Like, get the f*** up and put your armor on because now you are fighting.. Like you’re in battle and you need to be strong.’ So I could go on and on about my own story, but if you want to share a piece too about how you navigated things that were worse case scenario.
47:54
Sarah:
Ya. Well and like, you were saying you chose to put down, what you chose to put down a high expectation of yourself.
Jana:
Yes. And that is a hard thing to do as a perfectionist and a people pleaser and a hustler.
Sarah:
Oh gosh, yes. As a hustler and as someone that is, so I am, I don’t like to ask for help, I’m a doer, I can just figure it out. I’m like, don’t tell me how to do it, Ill do it myself. So when my marriage fell apart right before my store opened, and you know that was my rock, my stability, my consistency.. And so without that relationship in my life, you know obviously I found myself in the fetal position, but not for long, and you know, someone who is now in recovery for not being the one to ask for help or ask for what I need, I am now learning that because I was like a mixture of asking for what I needed, alongside the people around me, that already knew. And they just surrounded me and wrapped their arms around me. And I truly, I mean, when they say your tribe is your tribe, and your community is your community, and you need to lean on them.. I could not have done any of that without them. You know, whether it was phone calls or meals, picking up my daughter for me, so I could like, cry or continue to get my store ready for grand opening. They knew I was not my best and I was far from being able to be a functional human being. And so, aside from asking for help here and there, even though it made me extremely uncomfortable, despite my world falling apart, they knew, they were like, ‘You know what, we’re going to help you with this and you’re going to shut up and you’re going to accept this help.’ (Jana: ya) So, ya that is, I mean, leaning into the people.. You know we keep people in our lives for a reason, that are friends and confidants and the people who are closest to our hearts and souls, that is why relationships are in our life. Is when the good is good, and when the bad is bad.
Jana:
And you learn a lot about who those people are, when the bad comes.
Sarah:
Oh ya.
Jana:
I mean for some of us, you have to let a whole entire group of people, go! For some of us, when you’re entering those hard seasons, you realize that the people you thought would be there for you, a partner, or a best friend or family member isn’t. Or they might be navigation their own shit too. You know? So take a whole bunch of people going through things at the same time on top of covid, the year of 2020 everything was happening for everyone. And then what I found is like, I’m leaning into my support, but they also need support so they’re leaning into me, but we need outside support. And so, my biggest thing, like, if you don’t have that community that you could soak up, go find it. Seek it. Follow the people that you admire and respect. Like, seek coffee dates wit them, ask them. … You start new endeavors and then you start to feel giddy again. My friend Sarah is coming over, I’m going to interview her, I’m doing all these new things or I’m going on a date and people are interested in me again, you know, you start to find yourself, but so many people have that sideswiping again and they let it take them down. And for me I’m like, ‘It’s just a hard season, it sucks you’re there. It sucks this happened.’ Like, I’m so sorry even hearing about yours not knowing about it coming into this interview, but I’m proud of you for being one, bold enough to speak and also be authentic because other people are going through this, and if we continue as business women especially, and moms, to present that everything’s fine everything is perfect, we’re not only going to hurt ourselves but we’re going to hurt the people who are watching us. It’s ok to take two days off and just cry on the floor, it’s ok to let some friends go, it’s ok, to let partners go, like, evolve, evolving is good.
Sarah:
Evolving, setting it down, pivoting, because what’s worth coming back to, you will pick up!
Jana:
And that’s yourself (Sarah: always) Ultimately (Sarah: always) Your kids are going to grow up and start a new family. You will remain. And if you lose yourself in the midst of building any of that, it will not work, (Sarah: exactly) at least not in a way that feels good.
Sarah:
And you will forever always have what you put outside or externally of you, that you show that you’re doing it, but like I said it’s that relationship with yourself, with myself, that is my secret sauce! Because you’re right, like you, you’re growing your kids to be their own and they will not be a part of you forever. You will be yourself until the day you die and the relationship there is the most important.
Jana:
Ya.
Sarah:
Sometimes when we are having to set something down for the first time, is when, that is only when we first acknowledge that maybe I shouldn’t pick that back up.
Jana:
Yep. Oh my gosh that is huge. I just want you to say that again. Because earlier you were like, ‘Sometimes you need to set things down for a season and pick it back up later.’ But what did you just say.
Sarah:
Sometimes we don’t even recognize that when we first set something down that’s when we realize, ‘Oh well maybe I shouldn’t ever pick that back up.’ (Jana: Ever) Ever. We punt it down the road, we put it in a fire somewhere, we wrap it up and throw it down a hill, we are not going to pick it back up. And sometimes we don’t realize that’s all that we needed to do, and not pick it back up, and like you said, and now we have so many more pieces of ourselves to invest in, we have so much more time on our hands, we have less toxicity of everything we’re juggling, so why would we want to pick it back up.
Jana:
And really ultimately, that will plummet you into, not only have you gone through so much life experience through all those things, but you have more wisdom, but it’s like for me, and I see this in you, it’s all making sense now, and I see it in so many people, but it’s plummeting us into our purpose. Like, the bigger purpose that was stuck by us trying to patch the boat, and pick back up the things we weren’t supposed to that we should’ve punted down the road. So when you then, women who are listening, when you then get to the point you’re confident enough to say, this is not for me anymore whether it be a person a thing, a job, or a business you started that you’re like, ‘That actually didn’t work.’
I started in a piece of my business. I started a membership and I was like, ‘Nope, not where I want to spend my time and my energy. It’s ok to let it go.’
Sarah:
The thought, the emotion, whatever it needs to be.
Jana:
Yep. And because you let that go, you’ve got the time to project your business and your life into your purpose.
Sarah:
Where you want it to be.
Jana:
Which is ultimately you, and what you wanted the whole time. (Sarah: um hmm) But if you keep those things that are hindering that, you’re never going to get there.
Sarah:
Nope. Hm mm, ya.
Jana:
It’s hard though when you’re in it.
Sarah:
It is.
Jana:
Now that we’re outside of things and looking back it’s like oh ‘Ya just do it.’
Sarah:
It’s alright if you need that breath of fresh air and you know, and maybe dabbling and putting it down for a minute or 30 minutes or whatever and sort of breathing that fresh air and then go back and see how it feels after you pick that back up.
Jana:
And sometimes you just need a Sarah or a Jana to say, ‘See it’s ok to let it go and then…’
Sarah:
DON’T PICK IT BACK UP. lol.
Jana:
And honestly I want to keep sharing things about you. You know, my goal for this podcast is to build a community of women who want to do life with each other. Personal and business and the perfect blend of both right, ideally? And we’re all just like building each other’s businesses up and we’re getting together and rooting each other on and in the hard times we’re all like, ‘I get it, we’ve been there, like, you’ve got this!’ Oh and I hate to say it but it sounds arrogant and cocky, but once you get to the place that I’m in and you’re in, it’s like, ‘I want to be a survival guide for you, I want to speak up because you can’t right now, so I want you to listen, (Sarah: um hmm)and I want you to know it’s all ok, you’re going to get there, it’s going to be fine.’ Whether you work through it, maybe you want to quit a job that in the long run you put that down and you realize you want to keep the job. Don’t just let everything go. Don’t just take all your things out and get rid of your kids, that would be very interested, but no, I want to be survival guide. I want people to see people like Sarah, and Jana, living their dream, and flourishing and being joyful and happy and smiling and being like, ‘Wait they went through what? And they’re now that, like, I have hope.” Right?
Sarah:
Ya. That’s huge.
Jana:
Ya, ‘I can do it too.’
Sarah:
No, I’m happy to be a part of that, any day.
Jana:
Good, good.
So I want to encourage everyone listening, and you as you know, to continue using your voice, even when it feels scary, even when it feels scary, even when there are threats in your personal life and your business life and while you might have to endure some of that yucky stuff that comes with it, it will be worth it in the long run because you will have done what’s right.
Sarah:
Yes, and one day down, is one day closer to the end of it all. And getting out, and being able to literally run far far away from it. To never pick it up again.
Jana:
Yep. And here we are. (Sarah: here we are) I’m so excited for your business. Have you launched yet? (Sarah: um hmm) You did? (Sarah: yes) You had a big launch party and the whole city is in your storefront now?
Sarah:
Yes the grand opening was Feb 15th and we are up and running.
Jana:
And the name is?
Sarah:
Blair & Blyth. (Jana: Ok, in Kansas City?) And yes, in a little suburb called Westwood and I have my website https://blairandblythe.com/ and instagram @shop_blairandblythe for all the table top and hosting and home decor interiors, all the things.
Jana:
Yay! I’m going to come visit. (Sarah: please do!) And so anyone who’s listening to this, we are sitting at my dining room table, with blankets on, and if cuss words are happening I’m keeping it in because this is what it looks like to be a mom and run businesses and just do it authentically. There’s no shame in trying to be perfect all the time because even the top women in the world, Oprah’s not perfect, Martha Stewart’s not perfect.. We’ve watched all them go through hard ship too. (Sarah: no) So.. you can get through it, you can rise above, and I’m so glad you came on.
Sarah:
THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME!
Jana:
I love it. I do, I adore you. (Sarah: good.. I love you) I think it’s funny you were a client, but you’ve’ become a friend, even though we don’t hang out friends I still follow you and watch you and I love all your mommin’ and business stuff (Sarah: mm thank you) and now that I know even more…
Sarah:
Thank you for trusting me with this. Ya I mean shoot, whenever you’re ready to talk more about divorce, I will be, I am here.
Jana:
You know, there is a time and place for that. I think what you shared today was awesome and I think it will help people. So I always say if even one person can be affected by any of my episodes, then great I’ve done my job. So, thank you.
Sarah:
Mm hmm.
Jana:
So.. We are so excited you made it all the way through this awesome interview today. Sarah and I have a question and we want to interact with you so if you can do us a favor before you go… comment below on your favorite streaming platform:
💬 What good thing do you think you can put down, to make room right now for greater things? We’d love to hear from you. And we’re so excited for our next episode, make sure you subscribe to my channel on you favorite platform again and you can find my website at www.thedreamdoers.com
🌈 And you can also follow Sarah’s business at https://blairandblythe.com/ and instagram @shop_blairandblythe
Thank you all for listening to the Dream Doers Podcast!



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